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I'm just about ready to submit a couple, any tips / tricks on what should be in it or how it should be organized? Right now I'm going for the Concept, Theme, Basic Outline approach but it seems like there's about 40 different ways to do it. The program I'm submitting them too is pretty open about stuff so I'm not really worried about them getting all anal about it, but I'm always willing to listen to advice.

Thanks a million man.

Oh, while I'm thinking of it, any chance you could post a copy of your original version of the Jason X script?
Hey Dis,
I know I'm not the big man, but I think he's gotten really busy. So mabye I can be of help.

If you go to http://www.knightowlentertainment.com and click on sevices, scroll down to intense editorial services; go there and they offer to do a tailored query letter for you.

The catch is they don't offer it seperatly from the script editing. It's all included at three dollars a page. I've looked high and low for a service that will do or even show you how to do a query. All I can find is people referring me to buy books.

Considering it is an art form all of it's own, I'm just going to have a professional write mine and since it can't hurt to get feed back on a script, I'm going to knight owl. But it's pricey. Well, whatever you decide good luck!!!

Oh, and you can get a free copy of Todds script (Jason X) at http://www.script-o-rama.com. I don't know what draft it is, but it's free.

Hope I was of some use--
Tennesse
Well this program is open to Alberta authors and it offers up to $5000 for an accepted project to go from treatment to first draft, so I can't really just send them the first drafts. I'm not sure what kind of project they're looking for right now so I'm sending them an end-of-the-world style adventure drama and a omg-teen-angst drama and they can let me know which they would preffer. Maybe I'll get lucky and they'll want both. Very Happy Hey, a guy can hope right? I'll probably have one of them to first draft by the time I get word back from CHUM, but they don't have to know that. :-p
Dis,

As for an outline you basically need to find out what sort of outline they're looking for. Some prefer the two page outline. Others want a little more meat. Some even want some dialog so that you start seeing what characters look like (but this version is something you may do "after" you already get the job).

My outline's range from 2 to 10 pages.

I like my outlines to read similar to my pitches.

I give a somewhat detailed opening. That "event" that grabs the reader, listener or audience member.

If you think of it in movie form then it's the opening chase and assault in Star Wars. It's Indiana stealing the artifact and running from the rolling stone. It's the beach assault in Saving Private Ryan.

And before each beat...I personally like to use some heading in all bold and I tend to use headings that refer to other books or movies.

Something Wicked This Way Comes

When in Rome...

I use headings that are recognizable and relate to the meat of the following information.

After the "event" I deal with characters. Hero, Villain, love interest, sidekicks...anyone who plays a part in our story. Some of their quirks...what makes them stand out in your story.

I also deal with the plot. What's the goal of your story? What does your hero want? What does your Villain want. I want this info to come out right after the "event" or big opening.

And finally I'll address the tone. Is this the sly but dark wit of X-Files or is it the slapstick, teen angst of Buffy?

Then I'll normally have a new heading and info that deals with the big twist at the end of the first act. Luke's Uncle and Aunt are killed by Stormtroopers so he says he'll go with Ben. It's that moment that spins us into the meat of the second act.

As for the second act...I keep it sparse. I hit the biggest and best set pieces...with enough story so that nobody gets lost in the read.

I keep second act detail to a minimum.

Three or Four headings that will include the Mid-Act Climax (not all writers put an act break in the middle of the second act but I do) as well as the 2nd Act climax.

For me, the 2nd act portion of an outline or a pitch is all setup. I setup everything that I will need so that when I get to the third act...all the cogs start falling into place for the reader or listener.

Finally I put my heroes in what seems like a "no win" situation.

And that brings us to the 3rd act portion of the outline or pitch.

Now, I'm paying off all my set-ups.

I use a bit more detail...just like I did in the first portion. Because this is where everything comes together. Character arcs. Plot. Story.

And if you can do all of the above in two pages...you are a steely eyed missile man...or woman. You always want to leave them wanting more. A big mistake many writers (including myself) will make is to give them too much information too early. The more info you give them the more reasons they'll find to say no.

You are writers. You get it. They are executives and producers. They, nine out of ten times, don't get it. If they did, they would be writers because writers get paid more.

My method isn't ironclad. It's simply what I do. I've made money with my method and I've been turned down with my method.

At the end of the day...it's still just a numbers game. Whatever you do, whatever your style...if you have some talent and you get your words in front of enough people there's a better chance you'll get them in front of the "right" person who sparks to your ideas and has the power to take your project to film.

As for posting some of my old scripts and drafts. I plan to. I need to talk with the Sexy Olga and see about creating a new link where I can post them.

I might also post outline examples and such...but that's more risky I think because my outlines are by no means standard. I never read any books on outlines. I just started doing them and through trial and error developed a way that I simply "like" to do them. Not sure I would want anyone mimicking something that I myself just sort of threw together. Well I guess I could post them if I use a disclaimer like I've done here Smile

I know there's an old draft of JX on the net and for the most part it's 95 percent. Someone edited it. Don't know who. At the end, Jay's mask falls into a creek, I believe, then a hand comes out of the ground and grabs it. If that's in the script then that was someone else's addition. I never wrote that. My mask sank to the bottom of the lake, the end. Smile

Always made me chuckle that someone out there got an early copy but rather than simply throwing it up on the net...felt the need to tweak it first. I recall there being a few other small "tweaks" throughout but for the most part it's a good example of one of the earliest drafts.

I would actually have to search around for my old drafts. They're around here someone but that's been several computers ago.

Hope some of this helps,
tf
It definitely helps, thanks. I'm kind of glad I'm starting with this local TV movie shit. Not many people do it and the stuff they usually end up making every year is total garbage so at least I don't have to worry about too many other 'big fish' in the pond with me. The format makes it really easy in many ways too as your story has to have the usual 3 major acts, but chopped into 8 smaller acts, each somewhat self-contained. Very manageable bite-sized chunks. I should be ready to send both treatments off by Monday, here's hoping I get a favorable response...

... I am greatly heartened by that Locust TV movie that's coming out. OMG big scary grass hoppers! HEH. Then again, who the hell am I to judge anyone, and a movie I haven't seen yet. I could be good. Maybe. *snickers*

If you hear the buzz, it's already too late! Laughing
Hey, good luck with the gig. I'll send some mojo your way.

tf
Hey,
good luck Dis.

And Wendago if ya have any mojo left I could use some.

Big ernge--
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